9 comments to “Obama and the Arabs: Diplomacy or Homogeneity?”

  1. Larry Bartlett | January 27, 2009 | Permalink Reply

    God wrote the Word (moral code) on men’s hearts (Gentiles) especially. Romans 2:14-15

  2. stephanie drury | January 27, 2009 | Permalink Reply

    I don’t infer that Obama believes it is he and Muslims against the United States from what has happened thus far.

  3. Chris | January 27, 2009 | Permalink Reply

    Honestly, I don’t see anything in Obama’s interview that I would disagree with.

    1.) He is calling for greater understanding and peace with people in the Muslim world. While I don’t necessarilly think they always have peace in their interest, I certainly think that in a post-9/11 world, we’ve turned Muslims into villains. I don’t believe their religion is valid, but neither do I think there is Truth in Judaism, Wicca, Buddhism or others. We don’t consider them our enemies. I don’t see what’s wrong with starting to dialogue with both sides of the conflict…especially because we musn’t believe Israel is always in the right or that we always have an obligation to back them up no matter what they do.

    2.) This is where I get a tad frustrated with ideologies Obama says we are supposed to care about the well-being of people throughout the world (I dont’ think he just meant the Muslim world). And I agree that the United States, as the world’s superpower, must concern itself with the concerns of people in dire straights across the world–I would prefer if we began at the most lower-level 3rd World nations and work up, but whatever. And yes, I do understand that his first concern is his electorate…that help should not come at the expense of the well-being and necessity of the American people, although I believe that means making us able to survive and work, not live in luxury or be overly-prosperous. But here’s where the caution is, and this is where my frustration lies:

    Bush invades Iraq and says that we must provide freedom and democracy to the people of Iraq. Democrats respond by saying we are not the world’s policemen and Bush is not President of the world; Conservatives say we have an obligation to secure freedom and, particularly, democracy. Now, Obama says that we must be concerned about fostering understanding with Muslim nations and concerned about the well-being of people all over the world. Now Repubicans say that we are not the world’s caregivers and Obama is not President of the World; democrats say we have an understanding to secure peace and understanding. Both sides show their hypocrisy in this, reducing issues of humanity and well-being into politics.

    3.) Paul, you gotta give the Muslim thing a rest. I’m sure Obama has been heavily-vetted and I don’t think a Democratic committee would have backed him if they knew he was a Muslim…and he has adamently denied it (we were supposed to take Bush at his word about statements he made…why do we take Bush at his word and not Obama?). Personally, I think Obama is a “christian,” not a “Christian.” I think he has grown up in the judeo-Christian belief system and attended a Christian church. But I don’t believe he has ever once talked about the exclusivity of salvation by grace alone through faith alone. I think he’s a “whateverist,” just like most politicians are–whatever religion works.

  4. Yosef Gamble | January 31, 2009 | Permalink Reply

    Gosh guys have you learned yet? This us verses them causes these terrorist attacks, you need to all shut out the aggression and work towards diplomacy, yes you might tell me that this is going to go nowhere, but it’s another step towards a peace that GOD wants for us. I just want to ask you. Do you know why they want to kill Americans? There is a big, big reason why. Obama can help TRUE AMERICANS that want to LISTEN, to understand the Muslim world and be able to create bridges of peace with us, Israel, and the Muslim World. Read real books from unbiased (real neo-con christian and jewish) authors to figure this out.

  5. Charles Dean | February 1, 2009 | Permalink Reply

    Actually Obama has said pretty specifically that he is a Christian and that his faith in Jesus is his Salvation. Here’s a quote from an interview he did in Christianity Today over a year ago:

    “I am a Christian, and I am a devout Christian. I believe in the redemptive death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. I believe that that faith gives me a path to be cleansed of sin and have eternal life.”

    The full interview is here and is a great read: http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2008/januaryweb-only/104-32.0.html

    Fact of the matter is that the talk of him being a Muslim is ridiculous.

    Also, I think him making an immediate effort to reach out to those who would see themselves as our enemies is I think going to be much more effective than occupation of another country or constant threats. I think it’s alot easier to get along with someone that you try and be friends with, rather than someone who is constantly threatening you or forcing themselves into your space.

    • admin | February 1, 2009 | Permalink Reply

      Charles,

      Yes – Obama has used the right evangelical catch-phrases regarding his “personal relationship with Jesus Christ.” But what does he mean when he says he has a personal relationship with Jesus? Not the same thing the majority of evangelicals mean by that phrase.

      Read this interview he did with the Chicago-Sun Times in 2004 when he first ran for US Senate: http://blog.beliefnet.com/stevenwaldman/2008/11/obamas-interview-with-cathleen.html.

      When asked what he believed about how one goes to heaven, he denied that it is possible to know that there really is a heaven, and then said: “What I believe in is that if I live my life as well as I can, that I will be rewarded.” He speaks of Jesus – not as a Savior from sin – but as “that means of us reaching something higher.” During the interview he admits he doesn’t pray and he doesn’t read his Bible. He defines sin as “being out of alignment with my values” when the Bible clearly defines sin as being a trangsgressor of God’s law.

    • admin | February 1, 2009 | Permalink Reply

      Charles writes:

      “I think him [Obama] making an immediate effort to reach out to those who would see themselves as our enemies is I think going to be much more effective than occupation of another country or constant threats.”

      Too bad our enemies don’t see it that way: “Iran Says Obamas Offer to Talk Shows US Failure”: http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.073ba2ee2f1f00668848a4655420fedc.411&show_article=1.

  6. Charles Dean | February 7, 2009 | Permalink Reply

    So I read the interview that you linked, he’s very specific about his conversion experience. His altar call, accepting Christ, etc. and he talks very specifically about it. However, he does have a skeptic’s view of Christianity.

    What he specifically says about Jesus is, “he’s also a bridge between God and man, in the Christian faith, and one that I think is powerful precisely because he serves as that means of us reaching something higher.” Taken out of context, the line you quote sounds different.

    He actually doesn’t say that he doesn’t pray or read his bible. Actual quote:

    FALSANI:
    Have you read the bible?

    OBAMA:
    Absolutely.

    I read it not as regularly as I would like. These days I don’t have much time for reading or reflection, period.

    FALSANI:
    Do you try to take some time for whatever, meditation prayer reading?

    OBAMA:
    I’ll be honest with you, I used to all the time, in a fairly disciplined way. But during the course of this campaign, I don’t

    So he’s basically guilty of what most Christians are guilty of. Laziness or letting the outside world take more precedence than it should. Hardly a damnable offense.

    Now, this quote is troubling certainly:

    “There’s the belief, certainly in some quarters, that people haven’t embraced Jesus Christ as their personal savior that they’re going to hell.

    FALSANI:
    You don’t believe that?

    OBAMA:
    I find it hard to believe that my God would consign four-fifths of the world to hell.

    I can’t imagine that my God would allow some little Hindu kid in India who never interacts with the Christian faith to somehow burn for all eternity.”

    However, I think this is an issue that most if not all Christians have and should struggle with. I think that’s a very difficult concept to swallow, if we believe in a loving and caring God.

    So while he may not be theologically on the same page as you, do any of these things disqualify his salvation? If he’s had a conversion experience, asked Jesus for forgiveness and so on and so forth? I don’t believe so.

  7. Charles Dean | February 7, 2009 | Permalink Reply

    Oh and on Iran, Ahmedinejad is a tool. That guy stays in power by generating fear. He’s not very popular anymore. If he can’t keep fear stoked, he’s done and he knows it.

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