Here’s the audio of my interview with Dr. Stephen Um, Senior Minister of Citylife Church – Boston, Director of the Center for Gospel Culture, and author (along with Justin Buzzard) of Why Cities Matter: To God, the Culture, and the Church. This is a MUST READ book for every church leader in Detroit and its suburbs. I cannot recommend it highly enough.

Read Tim Keller’s Foreward and the First Chapter of Why Cities Matter

Listen to my interview with Dr. Um:

Dr. Stephen Um on Why Cities Matter